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  • robe
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    Do Chinese know Lech Walesa?

    Do Chinese know Vaclav Havel, Lech Walesa, Karol Wojitaya (John Paul II) and Solzhenistsyn and why these thinkers changed the 20th century. I say not, and they refuse to know them, preferring the endless sea of iphones and crass thoughts of madness. Granted, the sexual ravings of other posters will last longer than this...
    9 years agoin Culture-Beijing
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  • rcos
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    How many of expats in China ever heard about Shang Yang, Han Fei, Zou Yan, Wang Yangming and Lu Jiuyuan (just to mention several relatively famous)?

    Probably very few. And these people are here in this country, some of them claiming to speak Chinese and having interest in China culture and history.

    In this sense how could anyone blame Chinese for not knowing one Christian sect (catholics) leader name, two relatively unimportant politician of small and to the big extent not so important countries and one writer?

    Many people know Monkey King but who knows anything about Wu Cheng'en to whom the book is attributed?

    I think it's quite comparable and putting the blame on Chinese is a bit short sited - it's simply different environment and culture.

    9 years ago
  • imothy
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    I wonder if Chinese not knowing any of these people is any worse than the OP googling random " thinkers" to try and spark conversations to copy and paste the opening paragraphs of these peoples wikipedia pages in order to feel good about himself.

    Even an avid reader would dread spending that much time only to gain eye rolls from fellow foreigners. Stop trying so hard man.

    I personally dont like or trust anyone who has nothing to say except quotes.

    9 years ago
  • wambui
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    I don't know, doubt it. I don't hold that against them though, I never heard of them myself.
    9 years ago
  • brad
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    Chinese people haven’t the slightest interest in the history and implications of thought. Grasping logical connections between concepts is bewildering for Chinese people, so forming an arch-awareness of how Western political thought relates to their present situation is a rather far-fetched notion.

    sydoren:

    I assume few people out of Central/Eastern Europe knows more than names. Vaclav Havel became famous in US at certain time. In his home country he became a star but his popularity more or less quickly disappeared as he got himself involved in a lot local skirmishes and 'dirty' his hands pretty quickly. There are still some people in Czechia who like him (some even worship him) but they are absolute minority.

    I would also not call them really thinkers. Not commenting on the pope as I am not Christian but the rest were 'just' opposition politicians and the last one was a great and brave writer.

    9 years ago
    9 years ago
  • hebi
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    Chinese students have heard of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, and Charles Darwin. They have learnt one or two sound bites about each of them (comparable in complexity to "Australia is a beautiful country with lots of sheep"), but have not considered what their ideas mean. They haven't heard of Spinoza or Hume, and I’m guessing that 20th Century anti-Communist political activists aren't in their textbooks.

    latees:

    I only know of them because they were active during the time I was in high school and university. I enjoyed hearing about them and reading about them. They were pioneers in changing their countries.

    Chinese are not about the past. They are about the present and the future as it effects their personal lives. I mention the name Obama in my class. They all immediately sound off saying his name in unison. When I ask them what they know of Obama, some might say "Yes, We Can!". And that Obama is the current US president and he is black. Outside of that, nothing. When I ask them what "Yes, we can" means and where it came from,the crickets come into the classroom with blank stares. I mention the name Xi JinPing. Again, they will chorus his name. When I ask them about any policies he has put into place or what he has accomplished, some might mention something about corruption being combatted. But, only on a superficial note. Ask them about Mao...he was China's first president and mixed reviews of his performance of being good or bad. But, nothing of substance.

    9 years ago
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